GRiD Compass
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1 September 2025
KL
13:04
Kirill Leyfer
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I can check how PD + converter combo performs by itself and under load using oscilloscope, if you're curious how noisy and fast it is
Y
13:05
YL3AKC
But... Anyway you must start somehow with Bench PSU with current limit. Nobody like when magic smoke come out of rare and old ICs.
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KL
13:06
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I am so old that I don't have any PD PSU... I am still using microUSB on my devices... 😃
13:11
BTW, two more questions:
1) Any recommendations to write TCp client in C?
I just need program who tries to connect to server. Usually client runs before server starts. So connect stuff.
Then client must decet if server disconnecet, correctly close TCP socket and try to connect again. I need almost every error handling.
2) hard question: What about GPiB FDD emulator on RPi?
1) Any recommendations to write TCp client in C?
I just need program who tries to connect to server. Usually client runs before server starts. So connect stuff.
Then client must decet if server disconnecet, correctly close TCP socket and try to connect again. I need almost every error handling.
2) hard question: What about GPiB FDD emulator on RPi?
KL
13:41
Kirill Leyfer
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Haven't touched it since I've built your board ((
Didn't even test it
Didn't even test it
Y
14:01
YL3AKC
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Mkey... I am trying, but not have enough Force! That old TCP socket handling stuff is so... So much support code for making nonblocking socket and handling all possible and impossible errors...
Y
15:16
YL3AKC
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Nah! I think I kinda beat and win TCP socket programming stuff... That was f... adventure.
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KL
5 September 2025
A
12:46
Armin
Quick question, does anyone know how to low level format a hdd on the Compass?
12:47
Only thing I can find is initialize media, but that also automatically creates a partition.
12:48
I want to create multiple partitions in fdisk, but that requires me to have a blank disk first.
Y
12:49
YL3AKC
And... You have only GPiB interface?
12:50
Quick answer: no software, or I don't remember any.
12:50
Maybe there is something in HDD mages.
A
12:51
Armin
Well I could maybe try on a desktop pc with mfm controller. But I don't have one assembled and ready to go.
Y
12:52
YL3AKC
What about MS-DOS 2.11 on Compass and fdisk from MS-DOS ?
A
12:53
Armin
In the grid ms dos manual, it explains how to set up multiple partitions for CCOS/Dos. But they start with a blank hdd. Nowhere it is explained how to delete any partition.
12:53
And fdisk can only delete ms dos partitions
Y
12:53
YL3AKC
do MS-DOS 2.11 compass have fdisk ?
A
12:53
Armin
Yes
Y
12:53
YL3AKC
ahh
12:53
maybe need to tinker with debug.exe?
12:54
Hard, but possible.
A
12:54
Armin
Fdisk gives me this error. No idea if it is related to the already existing partitions
Y
12:56
YL3AKC
basically you need to read 1st sector on HDD using int13h. Need to write simple assembly code inside debug.
12:56
Then inspect it.
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Y
12:57
YL3AKC
After that, it is possible to fill 512 bytes in RAM with 00h and write them into HDD.
u
12:57
usernameak
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figured that out when it started sending the low-level format to disk controller when i was debugging the emulator
A
12:58
Armin
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So maybe is i turn off the compass after the low level, before it partitions it would work.
u
12:58
usernameak
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(note that GRiD's GPIB drives, on the outside, are more like SCSI/IDE than MFM)
A
13:00
Armin
Yeah, mine has a sasi to mfm adapter board inside
A
15:13
Armin
Weird thing after just a normal run of the drive initialisation program. The drive shows up as only 2096 free. Weird as its a 20mb drive
15:14
I think it might not like the 20mb rom in my 2101
Y
15:15
YL3AKC
Or... That software is for floppies...
A
15:17
Armin
Yeah maybe, I just copied 2 disks of data onto the hdd, and it still shows 2029 free. So idk.
15:17
Math doesn't really add up there.
15:22
Maybe the program just doesn't know how to display the full 20MB
15:29
Looking online it seems MS-DOS 2.xx only supports drives upto 10MB, so that might explain my fdisk issues.
15:30
Now I wonder how they managed to get 2 partitions on this 2101 originally.
Y
15:31
YL3AKC
I think, I saw some source code on you 20MB disk image.
A
16:06
Armin
yes, it seems there is source code for the initialise media program
16:08
also source code for something called CCDiskDriver
16:11
seems like it is the driver for the HDD "CCCOS Winchester driver implements mass storage device driver using the xebec s1410 5-1/4" winchester controller over the Compasss Central Peripheral Bus"
Y
A
16:22
Armin
I have no idea what it does tho.
also found these parameters hardcoded in there:
SetDiskParms : PROCEDURE (driveselect) CLEAN;
DCL driveselect BYTE;
DCL message (32) BYTE DATA ('Peripheral Bus Driver, 300178-01');
DiskParms(driveselect).devicePageSize = 512;
DiskParms(driveselect).sectorsPerTrack = 17;
DiskParms(driveselect).tracksPerCylinder = 4;
DiskParms(driveselect).numCylinders = 306;
DiskParms(driveselect).writeCurrentCyl = 128;
DiskParms(driveselect).preCompCyl = 128;
DiskParms(driveselect).eccBurstLength = 11;
DiskParms(driveselect).interleaveFactor = 6;
DiskParms(driveselect).controlfield = 027h;
DiskParms(driveselect).numSectorsTrans = 1;
DiskParms(driveselect).pagesize = 512;
DiskParms(driveselect).logicalPageSize = 504;
DiskParms(driveselect).maxLogicalPages = 20808;
DiskParms(driveselect).deviceBitMapFID = 02400h;
DiskParms(driveselect).deviceDirectoryFID = 02420h;
DiskParms(driveselect).dirPages = 10;
CALL MOVB (@message(0),@DiskParms(driveselect).message(0),32);
END SetDiskParms;
also found these parameters hardcoded in there:
SetDiskParms : PROCEDURE (driveselect) CLEAN;
DCL driveselect BYTE;
DCL message (32) BYTE DATA ('Peripheral Bus Driver, 300178-01');
DiskParms(driveselect).devicePageSize = 512;
DiskParms(driveselect).sectorsPerTrack = 17;
DiskParms(driveselect).tracksPerCylinder = 4;
DiskParms(driveselect).numCylinders = 306;
DiskParms(driveselect).writeCurrentCyl = 128;
DiskParms(driveselect).preCompCyl = 128;
DiskParms(driveselect).eccBurstLength = 11;
DiskParms(driveselect).interleaveFactor = 6;
DiskParms(driveselect).controlfield = 027h;
DiskParms(driveselect).numSectorsTrans = 1;
DiskParms(driveselect).pagesize = 512;
DiskParms(driveselect).logicalPageSize = 504;
DiskParms(driveselect).maxLogicalPages = 20808;
DiskParms(driveselect).deviceBitMapFID = 02400h;
DiskParms(driveselect).deviceDirectoryFID = 02420h;
DiskParms(driveselect).dirPages = 10;
CALL MOVB (@message(0),@DiskParms(driveselect).message(0),32);
END SetDiskParms;
16:22
those match a 10MB disk. don't really understand what this driver does tho.
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A
17:19
Armin
hmm found a program called "mediapartition" on the same hdd image
17:19
i'll give that a go
A
17:43
Armin
Looks promising, I can make and delete partitions it seems.
17:47
Wow I haven't seen this documented anywhere. I can make up to 4 partitions and choose which one to boot when booting from HDD
u
17:49
usernameak
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seen that string
it's actually a feature of the bootloader that's written on the HDD, not part of PROM or anything :)
it's actually a feature of the bootloader that's written on the HDD, not part of PROM or anything :)
A
17:51
Armin
Really cool, I hadn't come across this in any of the grid documentation. This is really useful if you share a drive between compass 1 and 2 systems.
A
18:19
Armin
Fdisk still throws an error, but i think that's down to ms dos 2.11 not supporting 20mb disks
Y
18:21
YL3AKC
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This is what I mentioned earlier today, but don't remember details. I saw it as file in my folder when searched for GRiD boot sector source code.
A
18:26
Armin
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Ohh, yeah hadn't heard of the program, wasn't on any of my ccos floppies
6 September 2025
KL
18:34
Kirill Leyfer
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Ok. changed this def*cker a bit (changed pin locations to adapt for pogo pins) and ordered it
Will see
Will see
KL
20:29
Kirill Leyfer
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As far as I can see, max current is around ~150mA (1.7w 12v)
Y
21:09
YL3AKC
Peak power can be more.
21:22
BKP-70 kit ~ 5W => ~0.5 Amps @12V + 1.5W => 0.3 Amps @ 5W
21:23
Add margin for peaks x2 or x3
7 September 2025
A
02:34
Armin
Has anyone ever tried the media repair program? I'm hoping to recover more of the files from the corrupted bubble memory of my 1109. But it doesn't seem to make any progress.
A
05:28
Armin
Another question, are we still missing parts of the development environment? I was talking with a collector that has 2 2101 disc systems which he claims was used for software development. No idea what's on them, he doesn't have a working system.
But I might try and loan them if you guys think we are still missing stuff.
But I might try and loan them if you guys think we are still missing stuff.
05:30
They came with grid manuals for fortran, pascal, basic and development tools. So that's probably what's on them.
u
05:33
usernameak
i'm pretty sure the assembler we had was corrupted and we didn't have a Fortran compiler (might be wrong though), at least?
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09:04
Armin
Found out why the memory of my 1109 is corrupted. Apparently one of the 3 bubble modules wasn't seated all the way. So now one of the 3 isn't working. When formatting it throws all bad sectors for the one module.
09:05
Is the module dead, or is this something low level formatting might be able to fix
В
10:15
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I don't know. I have several disk images in my archive, but I need to check how well the utilities work. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten around to it yet. But you can do it if you want...
10:15
If anyone else has hard drives, I'd be happy to get dumps and save them for history
10:20
I think it's possible to write a working program with all this, after all, tschak909 made UA571C?
https://github.com/tschak909/UA571C
https://github.com/tschak909/UA571C
Y
12:30
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Maybe you can put this Compass on hold until I rewrite repair/low level bubble formatting tool in assembler for Compass. Then boot from FDD and you can do the same as arduino, but without removimg bubbles from compass...
A
13:57
Seems like we have most of the development software. I'll see if I can maybe dump his drives to make sure, but not that important.
14:05
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That would be great. If you think it's possible. Yeah, I can live with only 2 bubble modules for now. It still formats the other 2 ok. Just marks bad sectors when it gets to the 3rd.
Y
14:13
YL3AKC
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I think it's possible. Imagine if you boot from FDD (real or image) without CCOS.
You have full control of Compass now.
You can disable interrupts. Just in case...
Then you can access 7220 directly with ASM code.
And that ASM code sends the same commands to 7220 as Arduino code by sabur
8086 become kinda arduino and run your code. Great thing that 8086 already connected with 7220. So you don't need to wire or solder anything between "Arduino" (actually 8086) and controller board. Also you already have good PSU inside Compass and don't need to thing about that.
Problem: need to get motivation and time.
Right now I am wasting time on something completely different.
You have full control of Compass now.
You can disable interrupts. Just in case...
Then you can access 7220 directly with ASM code.
And that ASM code sends the same commands to 7220 as Arduino code by sabur
8086 become kinda arduino and run your code. Great thing that 8086 already connected with 7220. So you don't need to wire or solder anything between "Arduino" (actually 8086) and controller board. Also you already have good PSU inside Compass and don't need to thing about that.
Problem: need to get motivation and time.
Right now I am wasting time on something completely different.
14:14
14:15
I am working with @UncleSmith1 on Orbiter simulator external hardware.
https://www.orbiter-forum.com/threads/the-universal-flight-simulator.37819/page-8#post-632238
https://www.orbiter-forum.com/threads/the-universal-flight-simulator.37819/page-8#post-632238
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Y
14:44
YL3AKC
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Before started interesting about GRiD Compass, I wanted to build physical cabin (simpit0 for my favorite space simulator named Orbiter.
I made some research with existing addons for simulator, and concluded that it is possible, but need time and money. I even build some proof og concept hardware like external MultiFunctional Display (MFD), it run on Praspberry Pi, connect to Orbiter software via LAN. Then Arduino also connected to Orbiter via LAN and get/set some parameters. I stopped on this project approx on March 2022. Because lack of time.
BTW. On 2021 Orbiter source code was released to public.
After Somewhere on 2022 watched (wasted time) on Youtube and saw @Megabozyakorovka videos about GRiD Compass. That inspired me to dive deep into Compass architecture.
BTW I am not Electronics nerd but also kinda Space nerd. Both Orbiter and GRiD Compass nicely fit into my field of interests. GRiD Compass - because it flied on Space Shuttle, and because it has interesting architecture compared to IBM PC.
I made some research with existing addons for simulator, and concluded that it is possible, but need time and money. I even build some proof og concept hardware like external MultiFunctional Display (MFD), it run on Praspberry Pi, connect to Orbiter software via LAN. Then Arduino also connected to Orbiter via LAN and get/set some parameters. I stopped on this project approx on March 2022. Because lack of time.
BTW. On 2021 Orbiter source code was released to public.
After Somewhere on 2022 watched (wasted time) on Youtube and saw @Megabozyakorovka videos about GRiD Compass. That inspired me to dive deep into Compass architecture.
BTW I am not Electronics nerd but also kinda Space nerd. Both Orbiter and GRiD Compass nicely fit into my field of interests. GRiD Compass - because it flied on Space Shuttle, and because it has interesting architecture compared to IBM PC.
14:47
Thanks to burnout I returned to Orbiter stuff and help Phil Smith with his Head Up Display (HUD) hardware now. As you can see in video, I managed to get HUD drawing on external (Linux) computer, what is connected to Orbiter via LAN. Exactly what is needed.
Y
15:11
YL3AKC
BTW When researched Compass disassembled CCPROM, I got suggestion in Youtube from Usagi Electric channel. Probably because I watching CuriousMarc and Adrian's Digital Basement videos. Usagi have video about his Centurion research/repair. In video where he tinkering with boot rom and diagnostic card for Centurion, I got an guess about production test ROM located in C000:0000 in Compass address space. CCPROM early in boot process check for singature "ETHP" in C000:0000 and if signature is valid, jumps to C000:0004
12 September 2025
KL
Y
09:40
YL3AKC
Cool!
KL
Y
09:45
Emm... I am at work now and I am really busy... 😃
Y
KL
Y
09:53
YL3AKC
It is important thing when you fly into Space.
09:56
This is GameDev in my style. External HUD working. Need to fix speed vector mathematics.
This happens over TCP connection between Windows computer aka server with running Orbiter Simulator (on right) and Linux computer aka client SDL2 software (on left).
This happens over TCP connection between Windows computer aka server with running Orbiter Simulator (on right) and Linux computer aka client SDL2 software (on left).
10:03
18 September 2025
Y
17:54
YL3AKC
Have no motivation, but looks like I need to continue with Compass 1101 schematics...
19 September 2025
A
00:02
Armin
Maybe this can be some motivation to look into compass again and play aroundwith some new software. I just got all of these. They will need good cleaning before I can dump them, they all suffer from disk rot.
Y
05:09
YL3AKC
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Nice one! Maybe tomorrow I'll try to work on Compass 1101 schematics.
В
09:43
Oh, sorry, I (sleepy) read that you'd already dumped and cleaned them. Once you're done, please create a dump. A raw one would be fine, using FluxEngine or something...
A
11:45
Armin
Slowly working trough them. It's a lot of work but I think I can save most of them.
I'm using my kryoflux for raw flux files and then I use hxc to look at all the bad sectors so I know which parts of the disk to clean more, then dump again and combine the tracks from multiple dumps until I have one with no bad sectors.
Also have to clean the drive heads between each dump because the disks are deteriorating.
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I'm using my kryoflux for raw flux files and then I use hxc to look at all the bad sectors so I know which parts of the disk to clean more, then dump again and combine the tracks from multiple dumps until I have one with no bad sectors.
Also have to clean the drive heads between each dump because the disks are deteriorating.
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Y
13:40
YL3AKC
Wow! That's a serious and complicated restoration work!
A
14:05
Armin
Yes, but I'm having fun. Just slowly working trough them all.
They look like Swiss cheese when I'm done with them. But it's working. So far I have done about 10 disks without any missing data.
They look like Swiss cheese when I'm done with them. But it's working. So far I have done about 10 disks without any missing data.
14:06
This is after I'm done with them.
14:06
(Yes, that's light shining trough the disk)
14:15
Btw, I'm also trying to organise all the other compass software I have from various places online but I'm still missing a lot. Would you guys mind sharing the compass software you have? Tnx
14:16
I think T Tron has a lot archived, but i haven't been able to reach him (yet)
В
14:16
Валера К.
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I've been working on this recently. If you help me, I'll be very grateful. I can give you access to the SFTP server by this evening
14:17
I have 3-4 copies of the same thing, and each file has to be diffed and assigned to a specific folder... It's hard for one person to do this.
A
14:18
Armin
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Definitely. that would be great. I'd be happy to help. Do you have a lot?
В
14:19
Валера К.
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It seems like I have all the known software and all the known files for GRiDs. Something from forum, something from YL3AKC, something from this chat...
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A
14:20
Armin
I'm still missing stuff like gridbasic etc.
В
14:20
Валера К.
I want to create a nice web interface with a search for programs and documentation in the foreseeable future. I'm ready to finance it and expand on it (for example, 2351, which has little information, will be coming to me soon)
14:21
GRiDBasic is already in archive, if memory serves
14:21
I'll finish assembling the laptop and write to you
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A
14:21
Armin
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That part I'll leave to you. But I'd be happy to help organise software etc.
14:23
I also have a lot of manuals that I still have to scan
В
14:23
Валера К.
Thanks in advance. I'll be back soon. Otherwise, I'll be doing this alone forever. Ideally, I'd take some screenshots and a description later... Why didn't anyone do this for me?)
14:24
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Oh... Wow, very valuable. Where did you get all this?) I don't remember anyone scanning this documentation before you
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14:25
Armin
Bought this week from local listing. Together with 2 hdd's and a 1109
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В
14:27
Валера К.
Incredible. It's a shame I haven't seen such generous offers in Europe...
A
14:27
Armin
This was in Germany, not that far from me in Belgium.
В
14:28
Валера К.
There are no words
14:28
I thought you were in the USA
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14:29
Armin
Just was lucky that no one else found the listing. Because the seller put it online without a description. Only "vintage 80s computer for sale" lol
😱
В
В
14:31
Валера К.
I wonder where he got all this from?
14:31
I keep forgetting, I need to ask for a scan of Yuri Leskovits' book about the history of Grid Systems for archive...
A
14:32
Armin
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He bought it second hand from a big international company in 1992 to use for text processing lol.
14:33
I just hope he didn't reformat the two 2101 drives for his text documents
14:34
Will need to look at those after the floppy disks
В
14:34
Валера К.
What incredible luck. I'm so jealous. If I had the chance, I'd buy it all right now.
A
14:36
Armin
I still had to pay €1000 for it. But I think that isn't a bad deal
В
14:38
Валера К.
1000 euro for the discs and documentation? Or was there a laptop included? If so, which one? I'm a bit dummy today...
A
14:39
Armin
This plus disks and documentation
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KL
14:40
It's an 1109
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A
14:42
Armin
Maybe one of them. I have 2 1101's (one is with YL3AKC for reverse engineering) and 2 1109's
14:42
One 1109 is missing the modem.
14:43
I don't really need that many
14:44
I would love to find a compass 2 somewhere for cheap. I have an 1137. But I would like a normal non tempest version
В
14:45
Валера К.
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Honestly, I want at least one compass. I don't even need a modem. I'm in Spain now, and I can get anywhere quickly and easily.
14:47
But first, I need to finish assembling the Framework laptop, since I started it...
Y
15:22
YL3AKC
I would like to add Your archives to my 18 GB of GRiD data downloaded from Internet...
В
15:40
Валера К.
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Если у тебя есть новые файлы после ноября 2024 года, я их с радостью тоже сохраню. Не думаю, что у меня есть что-то эдакое, чего нет у тебя...
Y
15:42
YL3AKC
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Ну... Можем как то после 6 часов сообразить. Я попробую сделать торрент файл и послать тебе. Ну а ты потом мне даш свой торрент. Или как-то так...
15:43
After that I'll try to "sync" data with @ConventionalMemories ...
15:44
Still waiting file hosting from T
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15:44
Валера К.
Ок, освобожусь, напишу сюда. Но я думаю, что идеально было бы, если ты присоединишься и тоже будешь раскладывать файлы и делать к ним какие-то описание
15:44
Не хочу, чтобы мы делали одну работу дважды
Y
В
15:46
Валера К.
Кстати, если мне у меня будет Компас, сможешь мне помочь с GPIB эмулятором?
Y
15:46
YL3AKC
Even now I am more in spaceflight than on Compass, I'll try to do something GRiD related...
I need to write custom SDL VNC clients for these displays...
I need to write custom SDL VNC clients for these displays...
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Y
15:48
YL3AKC
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Yes I am doing what I like, but... Need to finish with @ConventionalMemories 's Compass and send it back to Belgium...
В
15:50
Валера К.
Я так легко не сдаюсь)
Y
A
16:27
I would love to try one of the older ones with the different UI
A
17:27
Armin
17:27
17:27
Here are some screenshots from the old UI
В
A
17:29
Armin
The form based UI was only introduced in grid os 3 iirc
u
17:30
usernameak
before that it was tables and lists?
A
17:33
Armin
Apparently, the whole form filling to launch a program came later
17:34
I do have upgrade notes to go from 2.x.x to 3.0.0 somewhere that describe all the differences
17:34
But I don't have disk images for anything older then 3.0.0
KL
В
17:52
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I could try asking Yuri Leskovits (by writing to his public email). He's been through a lot of laptops and finally wrote a book. Maybe he knows something
KL
18:53
Или он здесь не отвечает?
В
18:53
Валера К.
А, да? То есть всё это время я мог не собираться, чтобы написать письмо?)
KL
YL
18:57
Yuri S. Leskovec
Общий привет 👋
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18:57
Валера К.
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@leskovezzz, если прочитаете, три вопроса.
Можете ли вы пожалуйста скинуть в этот чат электронную версию вашей книги? Могу ли я её опубликовать в публичном доступе? Я думаю, что ваша книга -- это важнейший документ об истории компании и её ноутбуков. Найти бумажную версию или чей-то скан у меня не вышло. Да и без вашего согласия я точно не смогу её куда-либо загрузить и кому-либо скинуть.
Есть ли у вас собственный архив софта, дампы ромов с ваших GRiD'ов? Армин ищет версии ОС младше третьей, а я продолжаю пополнять архив.
Можете ли вы пожалуйста скинуть в этот чат электронную версию вашей книги? Могу ли я её опубликовать в публичном доступе? Я думаю, что ваша книга -- это важнейший документ об истории компании и её ноутбуков. Найти бумажную версию или чей-то скан у меня не вышло. Да и без вашего согласия я точно не смогу её куда-либо загрузить и кому-либо скинуть.
Есть ли у вас собственный архив софта, дампы ромов с ваших GRiD'ов? Армин ищет версии ОС младше третьей, а я продолжаю пополнять архив.
YL
19:01
Yuri S. Leskovec
Собираюсь до нового года ещё напечатать книги. Электронную версию пока не выкладываю. Своего архива софта нет, искал периодически нужное и сохранял у себя, когда был канал на Yahoo. Но это всё можно найти и сейчас в сети
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19:05
YL3AKC
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Относительно щлектронной версий... Я подписался на один радиолюбителький журнал. Последние версий публикуется для членов клуба. Не знаю как они делает, но когда качаю журнальчик, там впечатан мой емейл. Если я солю журнал публично, то авторы будут знать кто слил. Ну... Суть понял?
Если сможешь прикрутить такое к электронной версий своей книги, то хоть будешь знать кто слил...
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Если сможешь прикрутить такое к электронной версий своей книги, то хоть будешь знать кто слил...
YL
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19:06
Валера К.
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Про софт понял. Планируете ли публиковать книгу в публичном доступе?.. Или могу я это сделать на VCF и потом на своём сайте?
Y
19:07
Не публично.
YL
19:08
Yuri S. Leskovec
Я свой сайт пока оставил (решил не удалять) vintage-laptops.com. Если что, там сперва выложу
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В
19:08
Валера К.
Спасибо большое!
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YL
YL
19:09
Yuri S. Leskovec
Книгу надо печатать в глянце, а это не дешёвое удовольствие. Разумеется, за деньги, да)
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YL
19:10
Новый надо сайт делать, но пока времени нет
19:10
Работы очень много
В
19:10
Валера К.
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Да можно на ты. Линк и креды скину тебе и Армину, будем в три головы файлики сортировать и дубликаты чистить...
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YL
19:11
Я вебморду не сделал и никакого домена не сделал. Сейчас попробовал, а меня по KYC укусили и теперь аккаунт висит на проверке документов
19:11
Но я надеюсь, что вебморда будет, красивая, прям как у @leskovezzz
YL
19:12
Yuri S. Leskovec
У меня сайт ещё 2017 года)
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19:12
Валера К.
Отличный сайт, всё устраивает)
19:13
Цель моего похода в мир GRiD'ов простая, как тапок: хочу сайт аля macintoshrepository.org, но про GRiD'ы. Чтобы я мог что угодно найти, скачать и запустить на эмуляторе\локально
YL
19:14
Yuri S. Leskovec
Там много других ноутбуков, гляньте визуал под 360гр
19:15
Раньше спины были, но они через украинский аутсорс проходили, потом мне их отключили, пришлось сделать наспех гифки 360гр, без возможности ручного вращения
19:17
Одна гифка состоит из 40 фоток. Начал ещё в 2014 году, тогда не было программ удаления фона через красный маркер, поэтому первые 3500 фоток пришлось фотошопить вручную. Год ушёл, или около того
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19:20
Валера К.
Хецнер мой хецнер. Почему так не вовремя)
19:21
А зачем сайт удалять?..
YL
19:21
Yuri S. Leskovec
Думал забросить эту тему в этом году
19:22
А потом подумал что столько сил вложено и решил оставить
19:22
Можно посмотреть ретроноутбуки под 360 гр
19:23
И тем более там в коллекции есть все самые первые ноутбуки
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19:24
Валера К.
Да где, кроме как у вас можно посмотреть на эту всю красоту? Если забросите, останется только ВебАрхив, да и то, пока не помрёт
19:25
А ваш музей ещё жив?
YL
19:25
Yuri S. Leskovec
В этом году я оставил бизнес автозапчастей и полностью ушёл в антиквариат
19:25
Так что ретро тема теперь профессиональная
19:27
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Да, пока в чемоданах всё лежит. Надеюсь музей дострою, осталось всего ничего внутри помещения ремонт сделать и коммуникации подвести. Стеллажи и прилавки под экспонаты уже есть
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19:27
Валера К.
Ради такого можно будет в Россию ненадолго вернуться
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YL
19:47
Yuri S. Leskovec
Ретроноутбуки действительно очень красивые, весь этот неповторимый дизайн, можно долгое время смотреть и вдохновляться
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19:48
Валера К.
Кто-нить знает, как можно быстрее и не руками экспортировать чаты в телеге? Рядом с RuGRiD я храню бэкап этого канала. Но делать его копию руками мне уже надоело)